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Novembre 2005


George Michael:
The idea is to release all of my new music and give people immediate access online to buy that music and donate money to charity at the same time.

Kirsty Wark:
It's an experiment you say, so if people don't download, don't click on charity are you gonna go back to the old ways?

George Michael:
I'm quite sure what I would do is that I would release singles in a convential way for charity if this didn't work. So basically it's experiment as far as the online part of it is concerned, absolutely. I might, maybe nobody will give me any money for any music and I'll be so cheesed off I'll say: 'sod it, I'm charging more than ever next time', I've no idea.

(playing John and Elvis clip)

Kirsty Wark:
Just going right back to when you started out. Did you always have a drive to succeed, I mean were you incredibly ambitious?

George Michael:
I was very ambitious from a very early age, I came from, as is typical of many people in my position, I came from a very oppressive background where it was almost Victorian and you know, your opinion was really not very important as a child in my house. So I think I have that desire to shout louder than other people and make myself known, but I think maybe I was slightly - I could never call myself unfortunate - but I think maybe it was slightly unfortunate that I became well known so young and that I went for it so young because I think had I gone on for even 4 or 5 years later as a young man rather than an 18 year old boy I might have avoided some of the problems of my career.

Kirsty Wark:
But part of the reason I ask that is because your father was a first generation immigrant, and did he have a tough time?

George Michael:
He worked hard, he had a pretty tough time, my early life was definitely very working class and both of my parents came from real genuine poverty but I think I absolutely realised in my mid teens that I was the son of an immigrant I understood what the difference is between my ambitions and almost my work ethic was in comparison to the people around me and I understood that that was what made me not very English. It's this kind of, this shameless kind of: graft, move up, graft, move up, graft, move up which was what my father gave me and I think genetically I have his drive so I have to be lucky, I think I'm very lucky in that but my mother you see was the complete opposite. So the messages were very mixed at home. My mother didn't want us to move out of that working class neighbourhood and my father was determined as an immigrant that we were going to be middle class family.

(Round here playing)

Kirsty Wark:
You seem quintessentially an English artist... and yet what is your identity?

George Michael:
I realise now looking back at the beginning of my career that something that Andrew and I had in terms of the way we were able and got away with throwing ourselves forward sexually as it were, as 18/19 year old guys was that we weren't English. Andrew was dark, I was quite clearly not English to look at really and we were portraying ourselves in a very non-English way,

(Wham's first TOTP experience - Young Guns playing)

and I don't think we realised that the reason we were doing that was that we were both.

Kirsty Wark:
Mediterranean

George Michael: 
...yeah, we both came from one end of the Mediterranean and we were both second-generation immigrants.

(Wake me up before you go-go playing)

Kirsty Wark:
As a Second-generation immigrant how do you feel about the resistance to immigration, the way that some papers treat the whole idea of immigrants?


George Michael:
I feel there's a horrible connection between 'separatism' and 'fundamentalism' in general, I think the area of society which struggles for identity is obviously the most vulnerable and I think the working class in this country and what is developing as an underclass are being pulled into these religious ways of thinking simply by their lack of identity whether they be unemployed or whether they struggle in this country or whether their family isn't integrated properly. I just believe that there's this horrible
thing going on where people are retreating into their corners.

Kirsty Wark:
How have your politics changed over the years? You came to power, as it were, at the height of Mrs Thatcher's power.

George Michael:
Until I was early thirties, I had never paid a penny that hadn't gone to the Tory government. So I was well and truly used to the idea that I didn't like where my money was going.

Kirsty Wark:
And did you herald Tony Blair as a new dawn?

George Michael:
I did, yeah. I was one of those fools that sat up at night with a tear in my eye thinking, 'my god things could change'.

Kirsty Wark:
Has he feted you? Cos he feted quite alot of artists.

George Michael:
Yes, I had spoken to him, I had gone to his house in Islington before he was elected and he's a very, very nice pleasant, decent man.

Kirsty Wark:
So what did he want from you in Islington? Support?

George Michael:
Well, just support and I had said I wasn't gonna go to that Cool Britannia thing. I'm a little smarter than that, a little longer in the tooth than that. I just knew that that was gonna be a bit of a joke

(Shoot the dog playing)

Kirsty Wark:
You became very overtly political around the Iraq war and I thought originally you were quite uncomfortable about politics and music mixing but then you really went for it on Shoot the Dog. Do you think that was wise? Some people call you naive about that, that it was a bad career move.

George Michael:
What was naive about it was the timing. I wrote a song in the year 2000 about the fact that I thought it was very uncomfortable that our leader was so friendly with a born again Christian at a moment where fundamentalism was the most dangerous thing on the planet and it really was that I had no idea what was going to happen. I had no idea Tony Blair would make me look so astute over the next 5 years but I really did something that was initially meant to make no impression at all outside to my fans because it was just talking about a possibility that was the thing and actually on the last day of recording Shoot The Dog the planes hit the towers. It was just so ridiculous, then I suddenly thought 'my god, well obviously this can't come out now', you know. it will be too offensive. But then a year later when there was still some question about whether or not Tony would go ahead, I thought, I had to go for it, to do something cos I was just really eaten up with guilt that I had an opportunity to speak out and I wasn't taking it.

(Shoot the dog playing with newspaper shots about std/George)

Kirsty Wark:
What do you think now though that the draft constitution seems to have the acceptance of a reasonable number of Iraqi's?

George Michael:
I don't doubt for a moment that the vast majority of the Iraqi's want this thing to work, whether or not it will I think is another question entirely.
And I think that they are absolutely, locked in to a dreadful dreadful situation and it will be constantly a matter of trying to keep civil war at bay.

Kirsty Wark:
What did you think when the London bombings happened then?

George Michael:
I don't have any sympathy with anyone who decides to strap explosives to themselves and kill total strangers but to me the obvious human dynamic is that that the longer this war or rather this 'insurgency' goes on in Iraq, the more bombs, the more suicide bombers, you know every day that passes, you create new terrorists and I don't see how that situation goes away really.

Kirsty Wark:
You have been pretty involved in some political concerts, from Live Aid to Live8, do you think they make a difference?


George Michael:
Well, I'd like to think that even in the amount of debt cancellation that happened that it was a much more worthwile event this time than 20 years ago. I'd like to think the overall effect of what Bob did this time with a bit more political experience under his belt will go further.

Kirsty Wark:
On a lighter note, what was it like being with Paul McCartney given that you used to busk Beatles songs as a child?

George Michael:
That was fantastic! You know the man forgot to introduce me. They cut out a song from the set without telling me and he forgot to introduce me.
So there's this bit of film of me going... 'Nobody told me the fuck to go on'. And then my mate going... 'Oh, just run on for the chorus, run on for the chorus'. So that's what I did, I just ran on just before I was supposed to sing the chorus. But otherwise I nearly didn't make it to Live8.

(playing Drive my car)

Kirsty Wark:
The whole emphasis at the moment... about drugs and public figures, what do you feel about all that?

George Michael:
Oh, I think it's ludicrous hypocrisy, isn't it? It's such, the use of cocaine now is so widespread, it's so phenomenally widespread, I don't know why the English have taken to drugs with a passion in the way that they have in the last 15 years. But it's so everywhere in society. The private cocaine use of a model in the year 2005 is just ludicrous.

Kirsty Wark:
You are quite open and comfortable talking about using spliffs, for example, but would you openly admit to class A drugs?

George Michael:
Erm, yeah I think I have before cos I've taken Ecstacy many times, when I was younger, especially. No, I don't have a problem being open about it, I mean; I think I'm of my generation. Our provincial little tabloid story was yes, 'Kate doing cocaine', but the international story was the ruination of a public figure by the press within days. And that's the world we're living in.




GEORGE MICHAEL :

- La conception de libérer et de donner ma nouvelle musique aux gens, pour qu'ils puissent immédiatement avoir accés en ligne pour acheter cette musique et parrallélement donner de l'argent pour une association caritative.

- Je suis tout à fait certain que je pourrai libérer seul par ce trajet conventionnel de l'ouvrage. Essentiellement c'est une expérience en ce qui me concerne, d'une contribution en ligne où chacun pourra me donner
de l'argent pour la musique.

- J'étais très ambitieux à un très jeune âge. Thypiquement comme beaucoup de gens dans ma position, dans un milieu accablant ou il était important d'être connu. L'opinion était importante comme un enfant dans sa maison.
Ainsi je pense que j'ai désiré me faire connaître des gens, j'étais peut-être trop léger.
J'ai commencé trop jeune, j'aurai pû être prêt 4 ou 5 ans plus tard, j'aurai eu la force d'éviter quelques problèmes dans ma carrière.


- Mon père a travaillé durement, toujours très résistant. Ma vie a été franchement bien avec mes parents. J'ai réalisé en tant que fils d'émmigré
que je pouvais comprendre quelle était la différence , non le fait d'être éthique, en comparaison autour de moi, je comprenais ce qu'était les Anglais.
C'est une sorte de greffe que mon père m'a transmis et génétiquement je lui en suis reconnaissant.
J'ai eu de la chance d'avoir ma mère qui me comprennait.


- Je réalise à présent le commencement de ma carrière que nous étions capables avec Andrew d'avoir pû échapper à ce lancement de l'avant sexualité de vieux gars qui n'étaient pas Anglais.
Andrew était foncé ( racé ) , je l'étais nettement moins; nous étions décrits nous même comme d'une façon non Anglaise.

- J'ai cette impression d'une horrible relation entre le séparatisme ( autonomiste dissident ) et le fondamentalisme de la socièté qui combat pour une identité qui est à l'évidence la plus vulnérable et je pense que le développement de ce pays est comme un sous-prolétaire qui peut-être arraché dans ce simple
raisonnement par leur manque d'identité selon le chômage ou le pays, ou selon la famille qui ne sont pas correctement intégrés.
Je voudrais juste croire que le commencement de cette chose ou les gens
restent dans leurs coins.

- J'ai écrit une chanson en 2000 à ce sujet qui était très embarrassante.
Autre que notre premier ministre était ami avec la renaissance intrégrisme la plus dangeureuse chose sur cette planète, qui était sur le point de se produire.
Je n'ai pas idée si Tony Blair, pouvait me voir aussi astucieux et prêt.
Au départ c'était sensé être une pression à l'extérieur, juste pour faire la conversation à propos de cette possibilité qu'était un constat de la réalité
avec " Shoot the dog ".

- Pour le Live 8 :
C'était fantastique. Vous connaissez l'homme qui n'a pas oublié de me présenter. Il l'a fait pour que nous chantions ensemble sans vouloir
m'impressionner.

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